[Konvas] buying a 2-perf camera. finally! or rentingoneforthemoment

olivier satnet firefly at uio.satnet.net
Thu Aug 21 13:14:49 CDT 2008


CONGRATULATION !!!!!
WELL DONE !
PLease place the film when edited on Vimeo in HD !!!

Bests, Olivier .






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "XiaoSu Han" <xax at stilfabrik.at>
To: "Konvas Discussion List" <cinema at konvas.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Konvas] buying a 2-perf camera. finally! or
rentingoneforthemoment


> hi guys
>
> thanks to you all we pulled the shoot of last weekend.
>
> here's just a small report how it went down in the end:
>
> After we got to Hong Kong and started prep, the budget was cut to
> half, so it was 50k HKD, which is about 6500 USD for a 8 minute short
> film on 35mm.
>
> So we got rid of a shooting day, tightened up the script, got less
> gimmicks for camera and continued prepping.
>
> We settled for a Moviecam Compact with Zeiss High Speeds at the end,
> framed for 1:2.35, shot Fuji 250D and 500D interior and exterior night
> and day, used step printing on a few scenes (12fps to 24fps), Bleach
> Bypass on one scene, and even got our underwater shot by handholding
> an aquarium under water and putting the Moviecam into that. We had
> quite a serious argument about that with production, but after a
> little bit of shouting they let us do it.
>
> We shot grey cards lit with half CTO to correct the footage half way
> and processed at Shaw Brothers Labs, it was so cool to work with them,
> I mean they created the 36 chambers of shaolin!
>
> The shot went really well, we had a lot of tracking shots on a Peewee
> dolly (man the equipment is bad in HK, but the crew...) and used
> tungsten only lights to light interiors. The crew was so fast and
> good, there was only one gaffer and a swing plus one grip and 1st AC,
> they lit the whole hotel lobby in just half an hour. Our first AC was
> Perry Ho, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1660475/, who worked on Lust,
> Caution before and just finished shooting an American Airlines
> commercial as operator of Russell Carpenter. It was almost ridiculous
> that he helped us, but it was unbelievably good to have someone so
> experienced if you're shooting 35mm the first time.
>
> We also had a few shots inside a taxi without the whole crew, we are
> excited to see how the step printing looks! Hong Kong's streets have
> been prelit by the government already, we had constant 2.8's and 4.0's
> on 500D stock almost everywhere, resulting in using 250D on 12fps
> then.
>
> And then after the shoot, we had budget for rushes of 3 rolls. Sitting
> in a theater and watching dailies is probably the most satisfying
> feeling as a DP, EVER. We were very satisified with the results, the
> directors also, we are getting a HDCAM SR tape the next week and I am
> going to post a few grabs as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks again, without this list we would not have had the courage and
> the knowledge to dare to try 35mm, we did and we won't go back :)
>
> So just for reference, we paid around 2500 usd for the lighting and
> camera package and around 1500 usd for processing and supervised
> telecine of 4000 ft. It's just incredible.
>
> Regards from Vienna again, Xax
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 AM, H. W. Stone <colcam at aim.com> wrote:
> > I budget for the DP to do telecine and at least a week with the editor.
The
> > hard part is that I need to stay away from that, let them alone for
both,
> > and keep my mouth shut.
> >
> > That hurts.
> >
> > But the odds are it winds up looking better than you dreamed about.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Camak, Lael
> >
> > Yeah, see, here is where I may not be the norm (and where other advisors
> > should
> >
> > jump in).    I never do the unsupervised telecine.  I'd rather pay a
little
> >
> > more, supervise the telecine, and get exactly what I want the first
time.
> > Also,
> >
> > since I am there, I can push things a little and get it done quickly.
It
> >
> > usually comes out about the same cost for me.  Somehow I started that
way
> > and
> >
> > never knew any other way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Lael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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