[Konvas] I just don't believe it!!! (now off-topic)
Adam Frey
thefirstrule at chainsawlinux.com
Sun Nov 2 12:21:07 CST 2008
> Such as modifying an AK-47 to shoot blank rounds in full-automatic
> mode.
Peter,
I thought, in film anyway, "modifying" an AK-47 was to shoot a blank
while shooting at least 25 frames per second, then capturing a second
shot from the barrel from another angle. Then in post, playing thru the
flame, skipping back two frames, and repeating the flame again. Then
cutting to the second angle and doing the same. You can show four rounds
firing, which seems to be enough to fool the viewer into thinking that
they are seeing an entire clip burst. Usually works for me. And you
don't have to worry about getting arrested!
The nice thing about AK-47s is that they use the 7.62x39mm round, which
has enough "flame" to look really good when captured on film.
OTOH, 9mm blanks are extremely unpredictable. You'll have issues
capturing the flame/smoke with anything less than 32fps - and even at
32fps, you may not capture the flame, depending on the individual round.
Some of the cheaper ones are notorious for blowing up in the chamber -
and you can hear them when they do, as they are twice as loud and the
the pitch is higher. You often have issues getting them out of the
chamber as well, since the brass is expanded and pushed tight up against
the chamber walls...
Of course, you can always go the safe and easy way and add your flames
in post production. Much, much, much safer than bringing a live round of
any sort to a film set. Realistically speaking, sound is the probably
better seller of the shot anyway...
btw: For those that don't know, a blank round (ie, one that does not
fire a projectile) does not have enough backwards pressure to push the
bolt back. If the bolt doesn't go back (and subsequently forth), it can
not reload another round, thus only one round is fired at a time. This
means the person holding the gun needs to manually operate the bolt and
reload a fresh round. A blank round does have enough force to kill a
person though, so be extremely careful and treat a blank round with as
much respect as any other round.
> And BTW, "blanks" are deadly items when misused-- BLANKS CAN KILL.
> And they can cause severe injury, permanent damage that is crippling,
> and pain and suffering that will haunt you.
Absolutely agreed,
Being extremely respectful of guns and what they are capable of, here
are a few things that I let people know:
1) Guns are not toys.
2) Never point a gun at anything unless you plan on shooting/killing it.
3) When a gun has live rounds, the safety is always considered OFF.
4) The gun remains pointed at the ground at all times, until it is being
aimed at the target.
5) Until the words "Clear" and "Safe" are spoken in reference to the
chamber, magazine, and bolt, and the guns are placed in their respective
carrying cases and a lock put on them, all guns are still considered live.
6) A blank is still a live round (aka, a deadly round) - it just travels
less distance (ie., it has less range).
7) Trust people that are familiar with guns EVEN LESS than people that
are unfamiliar with guns! Cops and hunters have many, many gun related
accidents every year - and they are all extremely familiar with guns.
About 15 years ago, I knew a law enforcement officer (with over 20 years
in the force) that shot a hole in the side of my father's truck because
he "thought the gun was unloaded" and pulled the trigger to check...
8) Anyone unsafe with his/her gun WILL get a heavy-handed fist across
his/her chops - and I'm NOT going to pay for the dental visit!
Adam Frey
Director/Cinematographer
Crimson Chain Productions
http://crimsonchain.com
Crimson Chain Productions
PO Box 35
Libertytown, MD 21762
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