[Konvas] the Canon 7D (off-topic)
olivier
firefly at uio.satnet.net
Tue Nov 3 20:10:54 CST 2009
my idea is connect to my AJA HD and get better codec ....
nottested yet
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Frey" <thefirstrule at chainsawlinux.com>
To: "Konvas Discussion List" <cinema at konvas.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Konvas] the Canon 7D (off-topic)
> colcam at aim.com wrote:
>> Canon has been testing a "larger chip" dv camera in EOS mount-- no
>> mirror.
>
> No mirror, meaning deeper seated lenses? So it's possible we could use our
> OCT18/OCT19 mounted lenses? That would be great - of course, I hope the
> Canon-without-a-mirror is as affordable as the 7D is...
>
> I'm happy with the HD image on the 7D. At 48Mbps, the H.264 won't play
> back on my 2Ghz laptop without heavy skipping. I'm currently putting
> together a corporate promo that I shot with both the 7D and the Z1U
> (roughly half and half). I'm having a harder time in post with the 7D
> footage, just because it's twice the size (48Mbps vs 25Mbps) and the H.264
> compression is so much heavier on the encoding (meaning it needs a much
> faster computer to decode - btw, the raw footage even skips on my 8-core
> Mac Pro under both Premiere and Final Cut, running on a 4-disk RAID0
> array). Doing the math, it's about 360MB per minute, which is already some
> serious throughput, plus it has to decode the video.
>
> Looks-wise, the 7D footage blows away what I shot with the Z1U. Much like
> the Z1U, the 7D does seem to be a little noisy in the shadows though, but
> I shot almost everything at 1600 ISO, which may be part of the culprit
> (will be doing a few more tests this weekend). I'm not going to put it
> side-by-side with the Konvas just yet, but eventually I'd like to do a
> comparison, just for my own personal notes...
>
> BTW: I wonder if it could be a matter of time before we see a higher H.264
> bitrate coming off the camera? Could we be so bold as to hope for a
> raw-esque codec as well? Hmmm... Just Bing'd for it and this popped up:
> http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?p=478766 - So, we may get RAW
> video from the Canon after all...
>
> And, speaking of which, if the footage does get into "RAW" territory, will
> our older LOMO and other cine lenses hold up against the Canon sensors
> (since Digital does not equal Film)? This is pure speculation, but I'm
> assuming the sensors will be more critical, since they don't have
> movement/registering like film. I'm also assuming Canon will keep building
> their cameras & sensors to look their absolute best when used for still
> photography and with still lenses. The use of cine lenses will probably
> not be on their radar; especially older cine lenses.
>
>> BTW, has anyone else posted things lately and not gotten them?
>
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> Cheers,
>
> Adam Frey
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