[Konvas] stabilizer

Tue Mar 9 16:20:50 CST 2010

Try Deshaker, a free plugin for virtualdub.  Works well.

cheers,
tup

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:00 AM,  <cinema-request at konvas.org> wrote:
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>   1. Re: steday shot !!!! (Steve Zimmerman)
>   2. Stabiliser (Pierre Samuel Rioux)
>   3. M Zimmerman Olex (Pierre Samuel Rioux)
>   4. Re: Stabiliser (Steve Zimmerman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:15:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: Steve Zimmerman <gkrimus at yahoo.com>
> To: Konvas Discussion List <cinema at konvas.org>
> Subject: Re: [Konvas] steday shot !!!!
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> Thanks for the quick replies everyone.? I guess I'll go ahead and get the 60fps model.? I'll test how fast I can get away with.
> ?
> I saw a?restored Kenneth Anger collection DVD, and in post they fixed most of the?shakiness?in the slo-mo shots from his older shorts.? Some of the shots? have smearing jitter and could not be fixed.
> ?
> Thanks again,
> Steve
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> --- On Mon, 3/8/10, olivier auverlau <firefly at uio.satnet.net> wrote:
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> From: olivier auverlau <firefly at uio.satnet.net>
> Subject: [Konvas] steday shot !!!!
> To: "Konvas Discussion List" <cinema at konvas.org>
> Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 12:45 PM
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>
> HI steve , i work all time with smoothcam in final 6 ....
> the final7 version don t work good ...
>
> smoothcam is a god tool for shots, all shots after this look wescam for aereal shots or super steadycam for the rest of shots ....
> YES YOU CAN !!!! it is the best tool i know for steady shots ...
>
> you can ever do it for 2K images and come back to 35mm after .... WONDERFULL !!!
>
>
> olivier .
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Zimmerman" <gkrimus at yahoo.com>
> To: "Konvas Discussion List" <cinema at konvas.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Konvas] High Speed shooting and Konvas 1m
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> I was definitely planing on just using something like steadytracker or smoothcam, or whatever Final Cut has as post plugin for steadying the picture. I have no plans on making a contact print, just 2k scans at best, and a 1080p master The shorter shutter speed should give a sharp image for the software to lock onto right? I may just order the 50fps motor because it's cheaper too.
>
> Steve Zimmerman
>
> --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Adam Frey <thefirstrule at chainsawlinux.com> wrote:
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> From: Adam Frey <thefirstrule at chainsawlinux.com>
> Subject: Re: [Konvas] High Speed shooting and Konvas 1m
> To: "Konvas Discussion List" <cinema at konvas.org>
> Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:21 AM
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>
> Steve Zimmerman wrote:
>> I'm curious to hear others experiences or tips with shooting high
>> speed with a Konvas.
>
> I don't want to swear to it, but I think anymore than about 40fps will not be good. The 1M/2M design just isn't ideal for high speeds, especially with the rotating mirror.
>
> The TEMP SKL was made for higher speed work - and may work a lot better than the Konvas.
>
> If you really need the higher frame rates, but don't have a lot of extra cash to plop down on a TEMP SKL, then look into cheating on your Konvas with 16mm and using something like a Filmo, which does up to 64fps, and modifying it for Super16 (or Ultra16) for better blowing up to 35mm.
>
> I can't remember what frame rate you can get the Krasnogorsk up to, but you may want to look into that as well...
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adam Frey
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:42:56 -0500
> From: Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Konvas] Stabiliser
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> http://www.newbluefx.com/so/stabilizer/postcard.html?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&utm_content=9257411&utm_campaign=Eliminate%20shakes%20%26%20smooth%20motion%20with%20new%20Stabilizer
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>
> I personalty use ProDAD a German stabiliser...
> But new blue just made one and at very competitive price...
> If you like you could try it free...
> Or download the cartoon FX this one is free and you could see how simple
> this company developing those product.( plug-ins )
>
> Personally i will not go over 42 frame with my Konvas
> But at post you could ad slow motion by stretching this segment normally is
> 50% so if you shot at 40 images you could reach 80 images in post in
> maximum.
> So the best will be shooting at a speed you not risk to break your Konvas
> scan it in digital the best quality possible and stretch it in post.
>
> Tip ad weight under the tripod to avoid vibration, used short lens or wide
> lens.
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:16:49 -0500
> From: Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Konvas] M Zimmerman Olex
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> If i asking to Olex to modify my motor i will asking to get a video speed
> 29.976
> This increase the quality very much for the digital scan work
> One thing i will asking also is a green light when the motor run in the back
> of the motor and in the front a red light when is stop run.( not on the top
> of the motor a way actor could see it and cameraman assistant could see it
> from at lease 20 ft.)
> Many great srl 35mm got a remote control a  (on and off switch ) like contax
> and nikon working on microwave i will asking to Olex to ad such of
> possibility to my 17 Ep if i send it there just for crane work or distant
> camera shoot.
> Change the fuse for using the flat yellow 5 amp car fuse ( if you need you
> could take one out from a car.)
> On mine i still using the Russian cable for the connection to the motor it's
> only the battery side i change the connector the Russian connector work well
> they just not standard here.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:01:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: Steve Zimmerman <gkrimus at yahoo.com>
> To: Konvas Discussion List <cinema at konvas.org>
> Subject: Re: [Konvas] Stabiliser
> Message-ID: <980950.35234.qm at web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Thanks for the links Pierre,? I'll check them out and your other post tonight.
> ?
> I think I'll play it safe and get the slightly cheaper upgrade that goes up to 50fps.?
> ?
> Hopefully If i ever need super steady, smooth super slow mo, maybe I could work out?a deal?with the local film school and use their ARRI III high speed??
> ?
> Steve
>
> --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Konvas] Stabiliser
> To: cinema at konvas.org
> Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 3:42 PM
>
>
> http://www.newbluefx.com/so/stabilizer/postcard.html?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&utm_content=9257411&utm_campaign=Eliminate%20shakes%20%26%20smooth%20motion%20with%20new%20Stabilizer
>
>
> I personalty use ProDAD a German stabiliser...
> But new blue just made one and at very competitive price...
> If you like you could try it free...
> Or download the cartoon FX this one is free and you could see how simple
> this company developing those product.( plug-ins )
>
> Personally i will not go over 42 frame with my Konvas
> But at post you could ad slow motion by stretching this segment normally is
> 50% so if you shot at 40 images you could reach 80 images in post in
> maximum.
> So the best will be shooting at a speed you not risk to break your Konvas
> scan it in digital the best quality possible and stretch it in post.
>
> Tip ad weight under the tripod to avoid vibration, used short lens or wide
> lens.
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